Comments on: Tsunami Lessons http://lirneasia.net/2005/04/tsunami-lessons/ LIRNEasia Tue, 06 Jan 2009 11:07:27 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: samarajiva http://lirneasia.net/2005/04/tsunami-lessons/comment-page-1/#comment-6962 samarajiva Tue, 12 Apr 2005 01:05:48 +0000 http://www.lirneasia.net/2005/04/tsunami-lessons/#comment-6962 Some may recall the U of Ulster research that was reported in Nature last month about the stress increasing in the Sunda Trench. The events of March 28th were easier to understand because of that. Now Nature has published something that's more positive in tone: a model that can predict a tsunami within 25 minutes of an earthquake. The report is at http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2005-04/11/content_2812603.htm Some may recall the U of Ulster research that was reported in Nature last month about the stress increasing in the Sunda Trench. The events of March 28th were easier to understand because of that. Now Nature has published something that’s more positive in tone: a model that can predict a tsunami within 25 minutes of an earthquake. The report is at http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2005-04/11/content_2812603.htm

]]> By: Luxman Siriwardena http://lirneasia.net/2005/04/tsunami-lessons/comment-page-1/#comment-6961 Luxman Siriwardena Thu, 07 Apr 2005 08:41:53 +0000 http://www.lirneasia.net/2005/04/tsunami-lessons/#comment-6961 Chanuka BBC or any other survey should get the views of the affected or likely to be affected. It is very easy for the academics, socalled educated, experts, and politicians who believe in Nanny States to ask others to adhere to the ditates by them. In the final analysis these self-centred fellows have deprived the poor resuming their life in terms of their vocation, shanties or social life.Just think Chanuka if you and your children are asked to not to return to your place of residence as you are within 100mt and your neibours who live in 101mts continue with their life, including schooling for kids. BUT BY NEXT TSUNAMY WARNING ALL OF YOU ARE MADE TO RUN FOR LIFE. IF WARNING SYSTEM CAN BE MADE REALITY BUFFER IS A BAFFOON IDEA AS FAR AS THE LIVES ARE CONCERNED.SO PROPERTY AND BUILDING ARE PROBLEMS FOR THE OWNERS. ANY WAY FOR THE POOREST OF THE POOR LITTLE HUT AND FEW ITEMS THEREIN ARE NOT THE MATTER. IT IS DAY TO DAY LIVING, VOCATION AND SOCIAL LIFE. Any way do no worry Cha, this Nanny state will definetly work in LTTE areas where enforcement will through the barrel of the gun. Chanuka , Please advise them whether it should be 100, 200mts as our Nanny say or 500mts as theirs say. Chanuka

BBC or any other survey should get the views of the affected or likely to be affected. It is very easy for the academics, socalled educated, experts, and politicians who believe in Nanny States to ask others to adhere to the ditates by them.
In the final analysis these self-centred fellows have deprived the poor resuming their life in terms of their vocation, shanties or social life.Just think Chanuka if you and your children are asked to not to return to your place of residence as you are within 100mt and your neibours who live in 101mts continue with their life, including schooling for kids.

BUT BY NEXT TSUNAMY WARNING ALL OF YOU ARE MADE TO RUN FOR LIFE. IF WARNING SYSTEM CAN BE MADE REALITY BUFFER IS A BAFFOON IDEA AS FAR AS THE LIVES ARE CONCERNED.SO PROPERTY AND BUILDING ARE PROBLEMS FOR THE OWNERS. ANY WAY FOR THE POOREST OF THE POOR LITTLE HUT AND FEW ITEMS THEREIN ARE NOT THE MATTER. IT IS DAY TO DAY LIVING, VOCATION AND SOCIAL LIFE.

Any way do no worry Cha, this Nanny state will definetly work in LTTE areas where enforcement will through the barrel of the gun. Chanuka , Please advise them whether it should be 100, 200mts as our Nanny say or 500mts as theirs say.

]]> By: Nishan http://lirneasia.net/2005/04/tsunami-lessons/comment-page-1/#comment-6960 Nishan Thu, 07 Apr 2005 07:12:49 +0000 http://www.lirneasia.net/2005/04/tsunami-lessons/#comment-6960 The 100 m issue is a political one. That has nothing to do with an Early warning System. There is no rule that a tsunami waves will stop exactly at 100m. So as far as the Early warning system is concerned, it is irrespective whether people live within the 100m belt or not. In any case, the warning should be there. One party wants to chase off everyone from this belt so that they can sell the land to robber barons. The other party objects to it because it is the ‘popular demand’, and they assume they can get some more votes by doing so. Other than that, I do not see any logic both in implementing a 100m zone or objecting it. Should we waste time discussing irrelevant political issues? I guess not. The 100 m issue is a political one. That has nothing to do with an Early warning System. There is no rule that a tsunami waves will stop exactly at 100m. So as far as the Early warning system is concerned, it is irrespective whether people live within the 100m belt or not. In any case, the warning should be there.

One party wants to chase off everyone from this belt so that they can sell the land to robber barons. The other party objects to it because it is the ‘popular demand’, and they assume they can get some more votes by doing so. Other than that, I do not see any logic both in implementing a 100m zone or objecting it.

Should we waste time discussing irrelevant political issues? I guess not.

]]> By: samarajiva http://lirneasia.net/2005/04/tsunami-lessons/comment-page-1/#comment-6959 samarajiva Thu, 07 Apr 2005 05:00:33 +0000 http://www.lirneasia.net/2005/04/tsunami-lessons/#comment-6959 Wow, what a discovery. This is a good way of solving the LTTE problem too. Forget facts; forget best practice; forget benefit-cost analysis; just register your vote on the Internet. This is true democracy, enabled by ICTs. We don't need Parliament; we don't need policy debate or research, just an Internet poll will do. The fact that this is not a representative sample should not bother us; after all everyone has access to the Internet in Sri Lanka. Wow, what a discovery. This is a good way of solving the LTTE problem too. Forget facts; forget best practice; forget benefit-cost analysis; just register your vote on the Internet. This is true democracy, enabled by ICTs. We don’t need Parliament; we don’t need policy debate or research, just an Internet poll will do.

The fact that this is not a representative sample should not bother us; after all everyone has access to the Internet in Sri Lanka.

]]> By: Chanuka http://lirneasia.net/2005/04/tsunami-lessons/comment-page-1/#comment-6958 Chanuka Thu, 07 Apr 2005 04:34:42 +0000 http://www.lirneasia.net/2005/04/tsunami-lessons/#comment-6958 Okay, now there is a better place to express your opinion on the Buffer Zone. BBC news.bbc.co.uk/sinhala has started a pool. When I checked last, the results were as follows: Agree for a buffer zone: 58% Don't agree: 38% Suggest consulting affected 4% Luxman, any comments? Okay, now there is a better place to express your opinion on the Buffer Zone. BBC news.bbc.co.uk/sinhala has started a pool.

When I checked last, the results were as follows:

Agree for a buffer zone: 58%
Don’t agree: 38%
Suggest consulting affected 4%

Luxman, any comments?

]]> By: Chanuka http://lirneasia.net/2005/04/tsunami-lessons/comment-page-1/#comment-6957 Chanuka Wed, 06 Apr 2005 06:34:54 +0000 http://www.lirneasia.net/2005/04/tsunami-lessons/#comment-6957 Luxman, if the nannies did not ran from their own places (well within 100m!) that proves only one thing: either they are too brave or too stupid! I don’t think we’ve had enough tsunamis to depend too much on historical data. Just because the last tsunami did not hit Colombo, it does not mean that the next one wouldn’t! So if anyone neglects the warning, they do it on their own risk! Luxman, if the nannies did not ran from their own places (well within 100m!) that proves only one thing: either they are too brave or too stupid!

I don’t think we’ve had enough tsunamis to depend too much on historical data. Just because the last tsunami did not hit Colombo, it does not mean that the next one wouldn’t! So if anyone neglects the warning, they do it on their own risk!

]]> By: Luxman Siriwardena http://lirneasia.net/2005/04/tsunami-lessons/comment-page-1/#comment-6955 Luxman Siriwardena Wed, 06 Apr 2005 05:34:27 +0000 http://www.lirneasia.net/2005/04/tsunami-lessons/#comment-6955 With regard to the 100/200 meter buffer zone what are the lessons to be learnt from the 28th warning? Does it matter whether you are living within 100, 200 or 300 meters when it comes to reacting to the warning? Has the Nannies of this Nanny State who direct us, the babes, to give up our land within 100/200 meters, ran away from their own Palaces located within 100 meters from the sea? With regard to the 100/200 meter buffer zone what are the lessons to be learnt from the 28th warning?
Does it matter whether you are living within 100, 200 or 300 meters when it comes to reacting to the warning?
Has the Nannies of this Nanny State who direct us, the babes, to give up our land within 100/200 meters, ran away from their own Palaces located within 100 meters from the sea?

]]> By: samarajiva http://lirneasia.net/2005/04/tsunami-lessons/comment-page-1/#comment-6956 samarajiva Mon, 04 Apr 2005 02:53:13 +0000 http://www.lirneasia.net/2005/04/tsunami-lessons/#comment-6956 In item 2 above, I state that there was no alternative to issuing a warning on the 28th of March. However, we must be cognizant of the cost of warnings (item 7). The stories emerging from the experience of the 28th of March are educative in this regard: http://www.sbpost.ie/post/pages/p/story.aspx-qqqid=3663-qqqx=1.asp. In item 2 above, I state that there was no alternative to issuing a warning on the 28th of March. However, we must be cognizant of the cost of warnings (item 7). The stories emerging from the experience of the 28th of March are educative in this regard: http://www.sbpost.ie/post/pages/p/story.aspx-qqqid=3663-qqqx=1.asp.

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