Sujata Gamage
(slides will be posted shortly)
DISCUSSION:On ‘national innovation system’
DG: much  of our work is outside the ‘national’ framework.RS: we want to do Asian research to be used the region. think cutting edge leading universities in the REGION, not in any one country. usable knowledge = it is policy-relevant.

 SG: 1^st order connectivity means making the information available, as simply as putting it up on the web. bypass the ‘national innovation system’.
1^st order connectivity: putting information out (not organized; informal)
2^nd order connectivity: dissemination (formalized and systematic; e.g. conferences organized to interact and enhance knowledge).
RS: is 2^nd order connectivity idealistic? the real world is still very chaotic.
DG: similar to process of dissemination of NEWS:SL
 SG: 1^st order connectivity is the way that LIRNEasia needs to go.
 RS: the objective is to get policy-relevant information into the policy-making system.
Policy process and research world are two isolated things. Policy makers want to know what other governments do or have done.  For example, there are many informal links between regulators, but universities are not in that picture.
 RS: Policy process and research world are two isolated things. Policy makers want to know what other governments do or have done.  For example, there are many informal links between regulators, but universities are not in that picture.
 SG: quality and connectivity-1: this is just a tool to assess a country’s presence on the web. connectivity tool needs to be refined.
connectivity-1: mainly mentor-mentee relationships.
connectivity-2: citations mostly within same country or with developed countries.
case-studies are needed (e.g.: Jain; Park), b/c there are no citations in the policy world.
DG: how do we map these people (the policy network) out? there are no citations
RS: challenge is to find the link between the policy and research world; difficult using measures of knowledge  networks of the research world.
 DG: perhaps these people (policy world) don’t use the web, they don’t know the value of the web.
 DG: how do we map these people (the network) out?
SL: when researchers cite ITU reports, for e.g . the authors are not picked up.
RS: 2^nd order connectivity should be producing researcher networks that are capable of contributing to the policy world.
SL: LIRNEasia can sit in the middle and facilitate this.
RS: the 2nd order connectivity model is not realistic.

SL: can use systems dynamics to model this