Comments on: Internet traffic bypassing the US? http://lirneasia.net/2008/08/internet-traffic-bypassing-the-us/ a regional ICT policy and regulation think tank active across the Asia Pacific Tue, 16 Mar 2010 04:03:59 +0530 hourly 1 By: Chanuka Wattegama http://lirneasia.net/2008/08/internet-traffic-bypassing-the-us/comment-page-1/#comment-14071 Chanuka Wattegama Sun, 31 Aug 2008 07:14:20 +0000 http://lirneasia.net/?p=2103#comment-14071 The 'cloud' has started to shown increasingly 'non-cloud' characteristics, adding to the complexity of the problem. So a more logical approach will be to measure RTT to every node in the way and take it case by case - which will be done at the next phase. The software notes down RTTs to every node in the way. This data will be useful to find the right reference first entry point. Also RTT is only one measurement of quality. One drawback of RTT is unlike other metrics it depends on the distance packets travelled, so a satellite link gives a higher RTT than a terrestrial one, even if there is enough bandwidth. Non-interactive applications (eg. Video on Youtube) can tolerate fairly high RTTs if the remaining parameters stay intact. The ‘cloud’ has started to shown increasingly ‘non-cloud’ characteristics, adding to the complexity of the problem.

So a more logical approach will be to measure RTT to every node in the way and take it case by case – which will be done at the next phase. The software notes down RTTs to every node in the way. This data will be useful to find the right reference first entry point.

Also RTT is only one measurement of quality. One drawback of RTT is unlike other metrics it depends on the distance packets travelled, so a satellite link gives a higher RTT than a terrestrial one, even if there is enough bandwidth. Non-interactive applications (eg. Video on Youtube) can tolerate fairly high RTTs if the remaining parameters stay intact.

]]> By: Rohan Samarajiva http://lirneasia.net/2008/08/internet-traffic-bypassing-the-us/comment-page-1/#comment-14070 Rohan Samarajiva Sun, 31 Aug 2008 06:25:10 +0000 http://lirneasia.net/?p=2103#comment-14070 How can first entry point in Singapore work? Your research showed that there are considerable delays from Singapore to US. The local provider buys the capacity from Singapore to the US and is thus responsible. First entry point to the cloud is the key. If one enters the cloud in Singapore, yes. But that has to be established first. How can first entry point in Singapore work? Your research showed that there are considerable delays from Singapore to US. The local provider buys the capacity from Singapore to the US and is thus responsible.

First entry point to the cloud is the key. If one enters the cloud in Singapore, yes. But that has to be established first.

]]> By: Chanuka Wattegama http://lirneasia.net/2008/08/internet-traffic-bypassing-the-us/comment-page-1/#comment-14068 Chanuka Wattegama Sun, 31 Aug 2008 06:09:48 +0000 http://lirneasia.net/?p=2103#comment-14068 Reduction in US bypass traffic can be largely due to the growing Asian Internet user base. Imagine China. Vast majority of Chinese users obviously use content in Mandarin and has no reason to access US servers. In addition, mirror servers further cut down international traffic. However, it is not the case everywhere. In the absence of useful content locally and the lack of mirror servers force the users in third world countries to reach US servers. So international bandwidth continue to be an issue for them. So benchmarking RTT for the first foreign entry point is still valid for many countries. May be even for Singapore. Finally it is the ‘first entry point to a foreign ISP’ - and not necessarily the first entry point to USA. (depending upon the point the local ISP connects) For example, for Sri Lanka, it can be first entry point to Singapore. Reduction in US bypass traffic can be largely due to the growing Asian Internet user base. Imagine China. Vast majority of Chinese users obviously use content in Mandarin and has no reason to access US servers. In addition, mirror servers further cut down international traffic.

However, it is not the case everywhere. In the absence of useful content locally and the lack of mirror servers force the users in third world countries to reach US servers. So international bandwidth continue to be an issue for them.

So benchmarking RTT for the first foreign entry point is still valid for many countries. May be even for Singapore.

Finally it is the ‘first entry point to a foreign ISP’ – and not necessarily the first entry point to USA. (depending upon the point the local ISP connects) For example, for Sri Lanka, it can be first entry point to Singapore.

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