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	<title>Comments on: Broadband Quality War: Are you a Winner or a Loser?</title>
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		<title>By: Anuraag</title>
		<link>http://lirneasia.net/2009/04/broadband-quality-war-are-you-a-winner-or-a-loser/comment-page-1/#comment-20759</link>
		<dc:creator>Anuraag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 May 2009 16:07:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would like to be updated about the follow up comments via email
Thanks

Anuraag</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to be updated about the follow up comments via email<br />
Thanks</p>
<p>Anuraag</p>
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		<title>By: Chanuka Wattegama</title>
		<link>http://lirneasia.net/2009/04/broadband-quality-war-are-you-a-winner-or-a-loser/comment-page-1/#comment-20577</link>
		<dc:creator>Chanuka Wattegama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 06:33:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Pingu,

Why ‘AT-Tester’ is ‘slow’ is it downloads relatively bigger files from three servers. This time can be reduced by selecting smaller files, but that compromises accuracy. We need it because speedtest.net (or any other tool available in the net) does not give what we look for.

Anyway, we consider developing a cut down web based  version for doing ’quick’  tests, though it will not be a substitute.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Pingu,</p>
<p>Why ‘AT-Tester’ is ‘slow’ is it downloads relatively bigger files from three servers. This time can be reduced by selecting smaller files, but that compromises accuracy. We need it because speedtest.net (or any other tool available in the net) does not give what we look for.</p>
<p>Anyway, we consider developing a cut down web based  version for doing ’quick’  tests, though it will not be a substitute.</p>
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		<title>By: Pingu</title>
		<link>http://lirneasia.net/2009/04/broadband-quality-war-are-you-a-winner-or-a-loser/comment-page-1/#comment-20560</link>
		<dc:creator>Pingu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 11:26:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the AT Tester takes around 6 minutes to complete. It is quite slow, don&#039;t you agree? I had to sit tight doing nothing for 6 mins, fearing I would interrupt the test. Also it gets access to command line. Will it become a security loophole? I would prefer if this tester was more like Speedtest.net, a web based test. It is a matter of QOSE again? !LOL!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the AT Tester takes around 6 minutes to complete. It is quite slow, don&#8217;t you agree? I had to sit tight doing nothing for 6 mins, fearing I would interrupt the test. Also it gets access to command line. Will it become a security loophole? I would prefer if this tester was more like Speedtest.net, a web based test. It is a matter of QOSE again? !LOL!</p>
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		<title>By: Sameera Wijerathna</title>
		<link>http://lirneasia.net/2009/04/broadband-quality-war-are-you-a-winner-or-a-loser/comment-page-1/#comment-20539</link>
		<dc:creator>Sameera Wijerathna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 02:59:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Prof. Samarajiva and Chanuka

Sameera.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Prof. Samarajiva and Chanuka</p>
<p>Sameera.</p>
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		<title>By: Chanuka Wattegama</title>
		<link>http://lirneasia.net/2009/04/broadband-quality-war-are-you-a-winner-or-a-loser/comment-page-1/#comment-20515</link>
		<dc:creator>Chanuka Wattegama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 May 2009 13:18:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Sameera,

Rohan has replied your first question in detail, so I will not take it.

Answer to 2: We don&#039;t do manual traceroots in our tests now - did it only once. Anyway, I do not think local server resolving will have any significant impact on any quality parameter. It reduces the RTT first time, but then two servers communicate directly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Sameera,</p>
<p>Rohan has replied your first question in detail, so I will not take it.</p>
<p>Answer to 2: We don&#8217;t do manual traceroots in our tests now &#8211; did it only once. Anyway, I do not think local server resolving will have any significant impact on any quality parameter. It reduces the RTT first time, but then two servers communicate directly.</p>
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		<title>By: Chanuka Wattegama</title>
		<link>http://lirneasia.net/2009/04/broadband-quality-war-are-you-a-winner-or-a-loser/comment-page-1/#comment-20503</link>
		<dc:creator>Chanuka Wattegama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 13:47:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks everyone, for your interest. We will upload presentations soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks everyone, for your interest. We will upload presentations soon.</p>
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		<title>By: Amar</title>
		<link>http://lirneasia.net/2009/04/broadband-quality-war-are-you-a-winner-or-a-loser/comment-page-1/#comment-20498</link>
		<dc:creator>Amar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 10:25:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do you guys have the power point presentation? If s, then please share it.

Also @ Rohan Samarajiva: Do you have the exact price for international Bandwidth price in Lanka?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you guys have the power point presentation? If s, then please share it.</p>
<p>Also @ Rohan Samarajiva: Do you have the exact price for international Bandwidth price in Lanka?</p>
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		<title>By: Rohan Samarajiva</title>
		<link>http://lirneasia.net/2009/04/broadband-quality-war-are-you-a-winner-or-a-loser/comment-page-1/#comment-20469</link>
		<dc:creator>Rohan Samarajiva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 08:53:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Sameera

The price of international bandwidth is determined by the interplay of supply and demand.   International bandwidth from Sri Lanka comprises several segments with differing levels of competition (simplified to the most common Pacific route to the Internet cloud):
1. Colombo-Singapore.  Here, I would guess that the suppliers are SLT, VSNL and Dialog.  SMW 1 and 2 are long dead.  The real game is in SMW 4, lighted in 2005-06.  But cables themselves are not enough to give you competition; who is allowed to carry traffic on it; who has access to the cable station on what terms, etc matter.  This is an area that could do with a lot of attention by the TRC.  Satellite is there, but mostly as backup because of latency and price issues.  Bharath Lanka can play a role (by connecting to cables going out of India to the West) as can Flag (Lanka Bell).  I have no data but would guess that prices have come down since the cable was opened for competition in early 2004 (this was not a full opening), but not by enough.
2. You&#039;d see more normal markets in the Singapore-US segment, but the fact remains that trans-Pac capacity is lower than trans-Atlantic capacity and therefore the prices will not as low as we&#039;d want them to be.  I understand new cables are coming into operation so prices should drop.

The bottom line is that SLT&#039;s control of the essential facility of the cable station connecting everyone to SMW4 must be regulated.   If that happens, there will be lower prices.  This is one area where the regulator must act.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Sameera</p>
<p>The price of international bandwidth is determined by the interplay of supply and demand.   International bandwidth from Sri Lanka comprises several segments with differing levels of competition (simplified to the most common Pacific route to the Internet cloud):<br />
1. Colombo-Singapore.  Here, I would guess that the suppliers are SLT, VSNL and Dialog.  SMW 1 and 2 are long dead.  The real game is in SMW 4, lighted in 2005-06.  But cables themselves are not enough to give you competition; who is allowed to carry traffic on it; who has access to the cable station on what terms, etc matter.  This is an area that could do with a lot of attention by the TRC.  Satellite is there, but mostly as backup because of latency and price issues.  Bharath Lanka can play a role (by connecting to cables going out of India to the West) as can Flag (Lanka Bell).  I have no data but would guess that prices have come down since the cable was opened for competition in early 2004 (this was not a full opening), but not by enough.<br />
2. You&#8217;d see more normal markets in the Singapore-US segment, but the fact remains that trans-Pac capacity is lower than trans-Atlantic capacity and therefore the prices will not as low as we&#8217;d want them to be.  I understand new cables are coming into operation so prices should drop.</p>
<p>The bottom line is that SLT&#8217;s control of the essential facility of the cable station connecting everyone to SMW4 must be regulated.   If that happens, there will be lower prices.  This is one area where the regulator must act.</p>
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		<title>By: Absent</title>
		<link>http://lirneasia.net/2009/04/broadband-quality-war-are-you-a-winner-or-a-loser/comment-page-1/#comment-20444</link>
		<dc:creator>Absent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 09:34:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Chanuka,

Appreciate if you share the presentation done at the seminar with us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Chanuka,</p>
<p>Appreciate if you share the presentation done at the seminar with us.</p>
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		<title>By: Sameera Wijerathna</title>
		<link>http://lirneasia.net/2009/04/broadband-quality-war-are-you-a-winner-or-a-loser/comment-page-1/#comment-20434</link>
		<dc:creator>Sameera Wijerathna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 03:47:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Prof. Samarajiva/Chanuka

This is regarding the Broadband Quality War seminar

Comment

You were talking about the traffic going out of the country. I think one reason for that is lack of locally developed and hosted contents. I am optimistic that there will be more and more useful contents developed and hosted locally in the future.


Question 1;

I think we have international connections, SEA-ME-WE 1, 2, 3, Barthlanka link, satellite links and many more. So why do we have a bottleneck while we try to access international networks?


Question 2;

Couple of months back SLT got the opportunity to host an iRoot server here in Colombo. Is there a considerable impact on web surfing? Have you considered our current capability to resolve domain names locally in your testing? I think it improves the response time.

Best regards,
Sameera. 
http://ict4d-in-srilanka.blogspot.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Prof. Samarajiva/Chanuka</p>
<p>This is regarding the Broadband Quality War seminar</p>
<p>Comment</p>
<p>You were talking about the traffic going out of the country. I think one reason for that is lack of locally developed and hosted contents. I am optimistic that there will be more and more useful contents developed and hosted locally in the future.</p>
<p>Question 1;</p>
<p>I think we have international connections, SEA-ME-WE 1, 2, 3, Barthlanka link, satellite links and many more. So why do we have a bottleneck while we try to access international networks?</p>
<p>Question 2;</p>
<p>Couple of months back SLT got the opportunity to host an iRoot server here in Colombo. Is there a considerable impact on web surfing? Have you considered our current capability to resolve domain names locally in your testing? I think it improves the response time.</p>
<p>Best regards,<br />
Sameera.<br />
<a href="http://ict4d-in-srilanka.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">http://ict4d-in-srilanka.blogspot.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Sameera Wijerathna</title>
		<link>http://lirneasia.net/2009/04/broadband-quality-war-are-you-a-winner-or-a-loser/comment-page-1/#comment-20432</link>
		<dc:creator>Sameera Wijerathna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 03:03:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for organizing yesterday’s seminar.

..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for organizing yesterday’s seminar.</p>
<p>..</p>
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		<title>By: Chanuka Wattegama</title>
		<link>http://lirneasia.net/2009/04/broadband-quality-war-are-you-a-winner-or-a-loser/comment-page-1/#comment-20259</link>
		<dc:creator>Chanuka Wattegama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Apr 2009 04:56:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Miraj. It is useful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Miraj. It is useful.</p>
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		<title>By: Miraj K</title>
		<link>http://lirneasia.net/2009/04/broadband-quality-war-are-you-a-winner-or-a-loser/comment-page-1/#comment-20184</link>
		<dc:creator>Miraj K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 14:06:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>link to the article for previous comment [which got lost somehow!]
http://bit.ly/bbasia</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>link to the article for previous comment [which got lost somehow!]<br />
<a href="http://bit.ly/bbasia" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/bbasia</a></p>
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		<title>By: Miraj K</title>
		<link>http://lirneasia.net/2009/04/broadband-quality-war-are-you-a-winner-or-a-loser/comment-page-1/#comment-20183</link>
		<dc:creator>Miraj K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 14:04:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>a related article:
&quot;Getting broadband&#039;s measure&quot; 

Singapore&#039;s IDA provides a good example of what a pro-active forward-looking regulator should be doing to advance consumer interests and ensuring QOS standards are maintained. LirneAsia&#039;s regional Broadband QOSE testing service is effectually fulfilling a vital role in that regard. 


and the following quote from the article is also very important which most times are overlooked by many of the regulators/policymakers. 

&quot;we also want to see what performance people get from the government servers.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>a related article:<br />
&#8220;Getting broadband&#8217;s measure&#8221; </p>
<p>Singapore&#8217;s IDA provides a good example of what a pro-active forward-looking regulator should be doing to advance consumer interests and ensuring QOS standards are maintained. LirneAsia&#8217;s regional Broadband QOSE testing service is effectually fulfilling a vital role in that regard. </p>
<p>and the following quote from the article is also very important which most times are overlooked by many of the regulators/policymakers. </p>
<p>&#8220;we also want to see what performance people get from the government servers.&#8221;</p>
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